Adrienne Harris learned that her husband was having an emotional affair with his running coach. This is her story and she is RESILIENT A.F.

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Adrienne Harris has alchemized her personal journey of transcending challenging relationships into a soul-driven mission, empowering others to release limiting patterns within their energetic code and embrace relationships of depth and fulfillment.

With 20+ years of experience in customer service and entrepreneurship, Adrienne recognized the profound need for a compassionate, heart-centered approach to understanding our connections with others. This realization ignited her calling as a relationship coach, particularly for those navigating the transformative paths of midlife.

As a devoted mother residing in the serene Okanagan Valley, Adrienne is deeply committed to inspiring others to cultivate self-awareness and align with their values, vision, and lifestyle rooted in their unique energetic blueprint. Her gift lies in weaving practical wisdom with real-life insights, establishing her as a trusted spiritual guide and inspirational speaker who leads conscious midlife seekers toward authentic relationships and soulful well-being.

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Blair Kaplan Venables is a British Columbia-based grief and resilience expert and coach, motivational speaker and the Founder of The Global Resilience Project. Her expertise has been featured on media platforms like Forbes, TEDx, CBC Radio, Entrepreneur, and Thrive Global. She is named the Top Grief and Resilience Expert of the Year 2024 by IAOTP. USA Today listed Blair as one of the top 10 conscious female leaders to watch and she empowers others to be resilient from stages around the world. 'MyStory,’ which is a television show available on Amazon Prime Video, Apple TV+ and Google Play, showcases Blair's life story. She is the host of the Radical Resilience podcast and specializes in helping people strengthen their resilience muscle using scientifically proven methods and guides grieving high performers with her Navigating Grief Framework. The Global Resilience Project’s award-winning book series are international bestsellers, and her fourth book, RESILIENT A.F.: Stories of Resilience Vol 2, will be published in January 2025. In her free time, you can find Blair writing, in nature, travelling the world and helping people to strengthen their resilience muscles. 

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Alana Kaplan is a compassionate mental health professional based in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. She works in the mental health field, and is a co-host of the Resilient A.F.  podcast. Fueled by advocacy, Alana is known for standing up and speaking out for others. Passionate about de-stigmatizing and normalizing mental health, Alana brings her experience to The Global Resilience Project’s team, navigating the role one’s mental health plays in telling their story.

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Did he know he was having an emotional affair? I don't think

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so. So when we take a look at relationships, I don't know if you've ever

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done any research, research on attachment styles, but he

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is an avoidant attachment style and he also

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is an energetic code six. And

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Sixes do not like conflict. And so

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he never came to me and talked to me about the things that he was

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unhappy with. And you know, I'm very

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masculine in my energy and one thing led to the next

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and it just led to this disconnect between

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us. And this is why I focus on values,

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vision and lifestyle because we lived a healthy lifestyle,

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but our values and our visions no longer lined up after all of those

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years. Welcome back to another episode of

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Resilient AF with Blair and Alana, but just Blair

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today and Adrian Harris. Do you still go by

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Harris? I still do, yes. Oh yes. So we're going

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to get into why I asked her that question in a minute. So Adrian Harris

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has alchemized her personal journey of transcending challenging

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relationships into a soul driven mission. Empowering

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others to release limiting patterns within their energetic code and

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embrace relationships of depth and fulfillment. With over

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20 years of experience in customer service and entrepreneurship,

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Adrienne recognized the profound need for compassionate, heart

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centered approach to understanding our connections with others. This

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realization ignited her calling as a relationship

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coach, particularly for those navigating the transformative

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paths of midlife. She's a devoted mother who lives

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in the Okanagan Valley in British Columbia. She's deeply committed to

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inspiring others to cultivate self awareness and align with their values, vision and

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lifestyle rooted in their unique energetic blueprint. Her

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gift lies in weaving practical wisdom

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with real life insight, establishing her as a trusted spiritual

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guide and inspirational speaker who leads conscious midlife

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seekers towards authentic relationships and soulful well being.

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Welcome to the pod. Thank you for having me.

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So where do we begin? I just want to say like I met

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Adrian in Kamloops. I feel like you and I met

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on the. How did we meet? Was it the Internet? No.

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So I think I was. Went to the chamber of commerce.

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Oh, right. Connection through the Chamber of commerce, said you should connect with Blair

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and so I reached out to you and yeah. We had coffee and.

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And then I went to a networking thing and you were there and

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it was great. And then we developed a friendship and then you moved away.

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Yes, there's a reason that I moved away. Yeah.

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Yeah. So we're going to talk about, about your journey and

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you know, I guess the, the key moments that led to you where you are

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today being, you know, a relationship coach, helping those

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in midlife from a spiritual sense.

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And I guess this journey probably started well before this

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pivotal moment. But we're going to talk about how you learned

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that your husband was having an emotional affair. Yeah.

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With his running coach. And is it. Is it fair to say ex husband?

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It is fair to say ex husband now, yes. Yeah. You

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know what, to be honest with you, I remember

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that moment in time when he and I had an

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argument. So we never argued. We were together for,

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gosh, well, in the end, 28 years. But I

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remember when this individual came into our lives, and I remember

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having a heated discussion with him, saying,

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you know, I just don't trust this connection. And he was like,

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no, you're saying you don't trust me? And I'm like, no, no, I don't. I

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don't trust her. And he slowly be

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kind of came her second husband. And

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so he was showing up in odd ways, doing things for her,

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kind of jumping in and being her business partner, but not really getting

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paid. And it was just. It was a series of events. So it

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wasn't just big one, big aha. It was finally,

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I was just researching things, and all of a sudden

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it came up to me. And I'm a firm believer, universe gives us what we

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need. And it was information on an emotional affair. So I started to

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do some research, and lo and behold, my husband at the

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time ticked off all of the boxes. Yeah.

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And I was like, oh, my gosh. Wait, what were some of

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those things? So he was texting her behind my

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back. He was meeting with her

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and lying about it. He was doing things

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for her that a husband would do, kind of thing.

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He was going to her house. He was helping out with things. And he

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was also being an emotional partner.

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So that's what an emotional affair is, is because you're talking

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to someone on a more intimate level. And so all of

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these were massive red flags. And I

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kind of got tired of being the third wheel. Yeah.

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So did he. Did he know he was having an emotional affair?

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I don't think so. So when we take a look at relationships, I don't know

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if you've ever done any research, research on attachment styles,

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but he is an avoidant attachment style. And he

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also is an energetic code. Six and

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Sixes do not like conflict. And so

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he never came to me and talked to me about the things that he was

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unhappy with. And, you

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know, I'm very masculine in my energy, and

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one thing led to the next. And it just led to this

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disconnect between us. And this is why I focus

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on values, vision, and lifestyle, because we lived a

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healthy lifestyle, but our values and our visions no longer lined up after

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all of those years.

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So when you had this realization,

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what did you do next? You know what?

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I. Oh, gosh.

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So I think the pandemic kind of pushed us apart as well, too.

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And we just got on two different pages, and that was very

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difficult because you would think that your partner of that

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many years would be on the same page. And. And we

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weren'. And so I decided to

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do a separation. So we actually moved into the spare

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bedroom. And I thought, you know, me

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coming. Him coming home and all of my stuff being taken out of the

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master bedroom would have been a, hey, honey, let's talk about

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this. But he didn't. He didn't talk to me at all. There

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was no, hey, I think we should work on this. Hey, I see you

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moved all your stuff out of the master bedroom. None of it.

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None of that. And I just kind of knew right then and there

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that we weren't on the same page.

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And so eventually I moved into the basement suite,

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and because we had a student living down there, and

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I tried to coexist with him in the space

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because we have a. You know, our son is 21 now, and

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so I tried to make things work, but we

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just. We just grew apart. And he didn't want to get

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counseling. There was no, you know,

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again, there was no conflict resolution, which I teach couples about.

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And it was really sad because he just didn't want to work on

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the marriage anymore. He was done. So I

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decided to leave. Yeah. Did. Did you, like. Did you

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have to initiate that conversation with him? Absolutely, yes.

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Because he's super avoidant and doesn't like conflict. There

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was just a lot of me. I mean, we did get into

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conversation a few times, but, you know, it's very

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uncomfortable conversation with your husband when

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he's had a relationship with

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someone that, you know. And it was, you

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know, we. We. We did bring things up in conversation, but they were not. There

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was never a resolution. And it was really unfortunate.

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Was my best friend. And that was probably one of the hardest things I ever

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had to do, was leave my best friend. That's so

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heartbreaking. I'm sorry. That's hard. There's so many

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layers of hard and sad in there. Oh, it was

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so hard. And it was really hard to choose myself.

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It was really hard to tell our teenage son

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that I needed to leave and that I needed to choose

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myself and that my husband didn't have my best interests at heart.

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Yeah, I can't even imagine. No.

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So when you decided to leave him,

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like, part ways, leave the house, what was life like

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for you then? You know what? I was still

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coexisting and. And I was very forthright about

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things. I ended up going into counseling. I've been to

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counseling on and off for 28 years because I was actually

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sexually molested as a child. So I brough to the

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relationship, my CPTSD, which I got

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help for, for since I was 23.

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And so I instantly got a counselor, started to

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talk to her, and she was just like, you know, you know, all of this

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stuff and so on and so forth. And so I got counseling, I got help,

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I talked to somebody, and I was kind of like, you know what?

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I'm. I'm ready to just move on. And so. Oh, my

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gosh. Dating in your midlife? I don't wish it upon anybody.

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Oh, my gosh, you know what? I. I don't know if I'm

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considered midlife and I'm married, but

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sometimes I'm in one of those Facebook groups. I'm not going

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to say which one, but it's like, are we dating the same guy? Just because

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someone told me that it's really interesting. And so. And

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they added me. And so. Oh my gosh, it's a minefield out

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there with like, social media and all the access to

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information and like, it's also a gift because then we can learn if someone isn't.

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But how do you. How did you. How do you navigate the dating world in

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midlife? How do you navigate new relationships? Your relationship

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coach for midlife? Like, let's talk, let's talk about that because, I mean,

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I think you've, you know, it's fair to say that you've had

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at least a relationship since. Since your

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marriage. Yeah, so. So I actually. So

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the reason that you met me in Kamloops is because I actually met a guy

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who lived in Kamloops. So I ended up,

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you know, getting in a relationship with him. My girlfriends were like, oh, you know,

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get on the apps and so on and so forth. And, you know, I

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looked at all ranges of men anywhere from

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like 36 to like 55. And

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I did meet some young guys. And it's kind of weird how young guys have

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a fetish for older, mature women. And I

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realized that that wasn't my thing. And. And then I ended up meeting someone

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from Kamloops and there were a few red

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flags. But I didn't even know what red flags were in the beginning.

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And. And then I also didn't know what catfishing meant. And I also didn't

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know what breadcrumbing meant. And I didn't know all of these modern.

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Wait, wait, wait, what's breadcrumbing like? Like,

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what's breadcrumbing? So breadcrumbing is when they just keep you

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interested enough, enough, but don't actually give

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you their full selves. So they breadcrumbs. So they throw little

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crumbs to. Then you, you

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know, you chase after it because you're, you're wanting to be

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seen and valued. And so this is why

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I do what I do. Because I love, like

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supporting people and educating them on this stage of your life. Because

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it's totally different at this stage, to be honest with you. I think if I

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were to try to help my 21 year old navigate the dating scene, it would

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be totally different. But for those people in their midlife,

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because we've had long term relationships or we've

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had marri or whatever it is that

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we bring with us, there's a lot of stuff that goes on to it. And

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also right now we have so much education on who we are. We have

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attachment styles, we have love languages, we have energetic codes,

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we have all of these types of things. And

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while I was dating this guy, I was actually

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becoming a certified numerologist.

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And so I'm extremely intuitive person. And I

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ran our numbers and I was like, we are not meant to be together.

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And he was like, oh, you believe, you don't believe in that mumbo jumbo, do

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you? And I was just like, yeah, I do. And it

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just, it just served itself over and over again. So, long

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story short, I moved to Kamloops to be with him.

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He had a younger child, which again,

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wasn't in alignment with me. And I just kind of

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settled for whatever. And this

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is the biggest, I don't want to say it was a mistake, but it

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actually led me to do what I'm doing today because

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it was an unhealthy trauma bond. And so if anyone who knows what

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trauma bonds are, trauma bonds are going into a

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relationship with, with pain. And so

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I took a pattern of behavior into that relationship that I had

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in my past relationship. And I didn't know that until

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I actually understand my own energetic cod.

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And so he and I broke up last summer. And

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it's so funny because a memory came up on Facebook the other day

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and it was me moving into my new place this time

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last year. So I don't. A lot of people don't know, but last

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summer I actually lived out of my truck. I literally

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had 200 to my name, and I was literally bouncing

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from spare bedroom to spare bedroom trying to figure out what I was going to

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do with my life. So we want to talk about resilience.

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Wow. I had no idea. Thank you. Thank. First of all, thank you for

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sharing all of that and what you just shared now. I mean,

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you lived out of your truck and you, you know, we're trying to figure out

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what you wanted to do with your life. So what did you figure out? Because

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I'm sure life is very different now than it was last year.

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Let's. Let's talk about it. Yeah, it's totally different.

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So I, again, I sought counseling

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and I got amazing counselor and she and I were discussing and she

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said, well, it sounds like you don't ask to have your needs to be met.

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And I was like, are you kidding me? I've been going to counseling

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for 20 some odd years of my life and I don't ask to have my

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needs to be met. So I messaged the ex boyfriend and said, I want to

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get paid for my furniture that I left. And I messaged my ex husband

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and said, I want you to. I want you to pay

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me for like, pay me for spousal support because I never asked for

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it. And I got things sorted out.

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And lo and behold, I always say the universe helps us out

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the most when we need it. Got a phone call from my,

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from my mom, and her and I aren't very close. We have a very strange

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relationship due to my childhood. And

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she loaned me money so that I could get back on my feet.

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And yeah, I ended up putting my name on a

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Facebook forum looking for a place to rent because I knew I wanted

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to be. Be back in Vernon because I was, you know, I was like, hey,

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universe, you know what if I meant to stay in Kamloops, give me a place

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to stay, give me a job or, you know, or give

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me something. And nothing came about. And so I took

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action in a different way, put myself on that forum. I

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had a wonderful lady message me from Oyama. I

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lived in her suite in her house in

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Oyama, and it was in her airbare Airbnb suite for six

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months. And it was the most beautiful overlooked looked Wood

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Lake. I just like literally went from rock

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bottom living out of my truck to

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like having stability back in my life and,

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and rebuilding myself. So, yeah, like,

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honestly. And I knew I was down the

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path of. I was already coaching people in the

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lifestyle and wellness sort of department

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because I had gotten really sick previous to that with my

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old company. And so I really leaned

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in and I was like, oh, you know, like, the relationship I have with

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myself is the most important one. And

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so I just really leaned into that and I used my

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numerology to help me guide myself down that path.

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So. Yeah. Yeah. That's really beautiful. And I love that you went from

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rock bottom to lakefront. Yeah. No kidding.

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Yeah. And I was actually, as you're. You're talking, I was thinking about, you

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know, all these external relationships you had and then, like, the relationship with

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money. But really, would you say one of the most.

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Or maybe the most important relationship is the one that you have with yourself?

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Absolutely, Absolutely. And that's what I teach and that's what

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I coach my clients is because until you have

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that self love, that self worth, that self belief,

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then you can't have that self growth. Yeah.

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Like in it's. And. And a lot of people don't realize that because

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we. I know for myself and. And for my ex

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husband, he sought his value outside of our

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marriage, and that was really sad

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because our value should come from within.

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Right. So did you go back and do

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the numerology with your hus. Your ex husband? Oh, I've looked at our

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charts, believe me. Yes, You've looked at all the charts.

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You've. You've looked at my charts? I've looked at your chart, too. Yeah. So

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I have the ability to see the cosmic connections,

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and I love the system that I work with because

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it can really help me guide people. It's

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not a. A be all and end all, because we also have

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our, you know, where we grew up, our demograph,

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our communities, our religions, all

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of these other things that help color our fabric.

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And so our energetic code is just one way

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for us to understand ourselves on a soul level.

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Yeah, Yeah. I think that's. That's a really beautiful gift. And, like, I am super

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fascinated. Like, I'm sort of like, newer to the numerology

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when it comes to numbers. Like, I see 888 everywhere. Eight's my lucky number.

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Our goal is to empower 888 million people to strengthen their

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the 8th of the 8th. Like, 8th's my number, but

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it's. So I'm kind of new to that. But I'm very much like, I know

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my Myers Briggs and my human design and, you know, I feel

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like all these pieces work together and it's all very fascinating. And what I

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think is really cool is that you have a free gift for everyone. It's the

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links in the show notes about numerology and relationships. And if

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people want to work with you, your links are also in the show notes for

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social and the they can get in touch. And I'm so excited because your story

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is going to be featured in our next book which is out January

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2025. Resilient AF Stories of Resilience,

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Volume 2. And you know, I, you know, I think

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you showing up and sharing your story is a gift, especially

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because you're of your honesty and you know,

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not everyone is open to talking about

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learning about affairs. Yeah.

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And I, I feel like

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you've really stepped into owning that's,

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that's the situation that happened and how you've taken those lessons

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and, and learned from it, but also built this career around

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relationships. Yeah, it's part of my energetic

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code. So I'm a master 11 2. And I'm all about

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connection. And so, and, and I'm all about

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relationships. I'm even a strengths coach

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and I, I have six relationship building

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strengths in my top 10. So I am meant to make

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these relationships with people. And so when I really looked

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at my strengths and just sort of when I needed to pivot,

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that's what I really leaned upon because

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I wouldn't be great at data entry or I wouldn't be really

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great at, you know, doing a lot

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of other things. Like I literally leaned into my own.

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And, and that's why I do what I do because

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I believe that I have the skill sets and the experience

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to be able to help people. And I do. I love it. I co coach

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multiple people on a weekly basis and, and I help

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them transform because it is a

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transformation, especially in our midlife. Have you heard about the midlife crisis that's

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going on in the world? Yes, I've already had mine. I went to Africa

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and opened a children's center for at risk youth.

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Exactly. And so we go through these transitional times in

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our life and I'm here to help people with that.

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And, and the main thing is too is, is that we all want to

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be in relationships. And so really it's just understanding who we

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are so that we can just show up and be our authentic self.

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I love that. And you know, if, if you're listening to this and you're like,

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I don't even know who I am or you want to even start with the

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relationship with yourself, you know, reach out to, to Adrian.

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So as we. What advice do you have

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for someone who maybe

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suspects or is just realizing after listening to

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you that they're potentially in a relationship where someone's having

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an emotional affair? Yeah, you

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know what? I'm, I'm actually working with a couple of couples right now, and I

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really reach out and, and, and just talk

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to a counselor or a coach or something like that. That's one of the things

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that I love about being a coach, is that I'm the bridge between

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help and a counselor because I don't

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see things. I don't take one side or another. I

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come from a, you know, a generally

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overview of both parties. And

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yeah, I dive deep into the charts and we figure out

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where that disconnect is, because there's always a disconnect. There's always

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something that has been pivotal. And then I

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always with my clients, it's your own free will on what you choose to

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decide. So, yeah, I, I do recommend

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getting help, and I wish that I knew the things that I knew

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now because I may not have gotten divorced and

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left my best friend. So. Yeah. Okay,

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bonus question. Yeah. Is there a way

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for you to have a relationship with your ex husband as just a best friend?

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Considering my ex husband is dating one of my

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old best friends from Whistler. Not at the moment.

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Yeah, but we chose to, so we

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chose to split amicably. We have a son, and

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my husband knew that I had a lot of trauma growing up, and

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I did not want our son to have trauma

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based upon our divorce and our splitting up of our relationship.

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So we decided to be amicable and not

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argue and fight and split. And we actually went into the courthouse together

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to sign our documents right in front of the notary. You know what?

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Maybe one day your friendship can re emerge. But

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yeah, you never know. I mean, with all the work that you're doing in the

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space of relationships, your paths may,

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you know, who knows? Who knows? Yeah,

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I do, I do have hope for later on in life that we can be.

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Because our son is 21 right now. And, you know,

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I know that he's possibly gonna want to have a family and, and,

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and, and, and I don't want there to be this push and pull between

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us. I definitely want there to be peace and harmony and

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amicability between us. I love that. Having a harmonious

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relationship with your ex sounds like an

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ideal way to co parent, co grandparent.

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Yeah. You know, and so I, I, I hope that happens for you.

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And I mean, I, I think it's so beautiful where you're at

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with the growth in understanding relationships

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and helping others navigate their challenges. So I, I,

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yeah, that's amazing. Do you have any final words you'd like to share?

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You know what the one thing that I've really loved about this process is, is

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that I've now been in a 10 month relationship. That's

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really healthy. And I've applied all of the things that

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I've learned and known into my own relationship now.

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And so I, I just want people to know that

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we're human and that we want connection and we want to just

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show up authentically. So if you don't know how to do that, then reach out

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to me. That's beautiful. And congratulations. Ten

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months, that's awesome. I see you posting with him. I was like, is that, is

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that her boyfriend? It is. Yeah. I love

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that. So thank you so much for sharing your wisdom and

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your experience with our listeners and with me and with

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our community. And I'm so grateful for you. Yeah, thank you

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so much, Blair. I'm excited to be in this book. And to those

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of you who have tuned in, thank you for spending time with me and

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Adrian. Just know that life's full of ups and

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downs, lefts and rights. Sometimes a U turn, sometimes

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a little backwards, sometimes a lot forwards. But it's not all

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sunshine and rainbow. Sometimes it's really sticky and hard. And know that

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you will get through it. You have to put one foot in front of the

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other. You are not alone. You have support from

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people like Adrian, like myself, like our community, the Global

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Resilience Project. It is okay to not be okay.

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We are that lighthouse in the storm for you. And just remember, friends,

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you are resilient, afraid.

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