Sometimes dark humour can help you navigate life’s challenges and Hollywood is great at showing us just that. In this episode, Blair and Alana chat about their favourite dark comedy TV shows and why they love them. Which ones should they add to the list?
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If you're going through a really hard time, not just a death, but a
Speaker:grief or a challenge in life, you know, those little
Speaker:moments that make you chuckle, note them down. Those little moments of
Speaker:glimmers or, like, hilarity, like, it's okay to laugh. Like, you
Speaker:could have multiple feelings at once. Right? You can be extremely sad
Speaker:and then, like, a grief vortex and also find moments
Speaker:of joy. All the feelings can coexist, and there's
Speaker:nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with laughing at a time where it should
Speaker:be really sad. Yeah. And I think a lot of people I I come
Speaker:across this a lot with, like, my clients is, like, you know, people feel guilty
Speaker:if they're happy or few people feel guilty if they're, like, enjoying
Speaker:themselves. And, you know, you're allowed to enjoy yourself and you're allowed to
Speaker:be happy, and that doesn't take away from the grief.
Speaker:Welcome back to another episode of Resilient AF with Blair
Speaker:and Alana. Hi.
Speaker:Yeah. And Alana and I have been, like, you know, obviously, working
Speaker:on a bunch of different things, you know, keeping projects rolling, other projects.
Speaker:And, something that I don't think we've actually really talked too much about
Speaker:that I, you know, I think would be a great conversation for today is about
Speaker:dark humor and, like, how we use it to cope. We've attract other
Speaker:people in the mental health space who use dark humor, you know, and,
Speaker:specifically, a few TV shows that you and I both agree that are really good
Speaker:that use dark humor about really heavy topics. But,
Speaker:before we dive in, let's catch up. Like, how how's it going? Even though I
Speaker:talk to you, like, three times a day, like, let's give an update. Yeah.
Speaker:Last couple weeks, things have changed for your skin. Yes. Things
Speaker:have changed for my skin. I got inked. Is that the
Speaker:word? Tatted. I got tatted. Tatted?
Speaker:You got a Moo two? I got a Moo two, a Molly Moo tattoo. If
Speaker:you're watching the video, you can see. And, you know, I've
Speaker:been dreaming this up for months and months and months, but I was on
Speaker:Accutane, and you have to wait a certain amount of time after you finish it
Speaker:to let your body, I don't know, do the medical things.
Speaker:And so, yeah, I was inspired by a
Speaker:TikTok that I saw, and, it
Speaker:was fantastic. It was my second tattoo, and it was
Speaker:easy and fun. And, you know, Molly Moo
Speaker:is my soul cat, and I've had her
Speaker:since:Speaker:has gone through deaths upon deaths.
Speaker:She's gone through moves. She's gone through a lot with me. And so,
Speaker:you know, moves. And so
Speaker:and now she's gone through the adjustment to Lenny. And so
Speaker:I felt like a way to honor her was to have her permanently
Speaker:tatted on my arm. And, you know, she didn't really
Speaker:react to it, which is a very moo
Speaker:thing to do. But, yeah, here it is
Speaker:again. Great. My little moo too. I'm really proud
Speaker:of the biggest forgetting that. Yeah. And what
Speaker:else has been going on? You know, I'm just keep on keeping
Speaker:on. I've been going to Pilates. I,
Speaker:oh, I hit my 250 class. So last time I got
Speaker:bejeweled socks, bedazzled socks. This time I got a tank
Speaker:top, which is fun, and I've already worn it. It just says
Speaker:the Pilates studio in the area. And,
Speaker:yeah, I felt very proud of myself. And the next milestone's
Speaker:500, so that's gonna be, like, another year. But I make many milestones for
Speaker:myself, so 300, here we come. Well, you love
Speaker:gamification. Right? I love gamification. Like, with the
Speaker:Peloton, like, you used to have a bike. You still have a tread, but, like,
Speaker:you love the gamification of it. And it's like you were, like, driven by that.
Speaker:You've always been driven by gamification. For everything.
Speaker:For, like, Fitbits, Apple Watches. Like, I
Speaker:like, I'm not athletic by any means, but
Speaker:competitive, I am. With yourself? With myself Yeah.
Speaker:And secretly with others, but no one knows that. It's just me. Me
Speaker:against me. And So is it driving you crazy that I don't use my Apple
Speaker:Watch anymore? Yeah. Of course it is. Like, I
Speaker:have some friends who I follow, and I always know, like, I'm not always
Speaker:gonna be the top in steps, but it it's nice to
Speaker:strive for. But, yeah, gamification is a
Speaker:way that works for me. So, yeah, So Pilates has been gamified. I
Speaker:also just really enjoy it. Yeah. Well, I'm
Speaker:gonna do an intro class because, like, you like, it's helped your
Speaker:pain. I've just, like, been waking up in pain. Like, I'm having a lot of
Speaker:pain. Just Yeah. Muscles and so I need to do some strength
Speaker:training. And so, there's a class I'm gonna check out
Speaker:nearby. That's amazing. Yeah. Pilates is great.
Speaker:Recommend it for everyone. It is meant for everybody
Speaker:that bodies, and make sure you have
Speaker:a good instructor who knows what they're doing. Yeah. I love it. Well, great update.
Speaker:250. Congratulations. Round of hoo. At the time of recording, I think
Speaker:I'm at two fifty six or two fifty seven now.
Speaker:But, yeah, how about you? What's going on in your life?
Speaker:Well, I so we all know, if you've been listening
Speaker:for a while, how much I love going to the lake. So we have our
Speaker:home in Kamloops, and then we have a, like, a 30 foot trailer parked at
Speaker:a lake that's a couple hours away, and it's my happy place.
Speaker:It's in the forest. There's waterfalls and rivers and, like, the white a white
Speaker:sand beach, perfect water, you know, beautiful, clear,
Speaker:good temperature. And, what,
Speaker:I usually go there to heal, but because I've been on, like, this crazy
Speaker:speaking tour of, like first, I went to Winnipeg for Passover, and then
Speaker:I flew back to, you know, back to Kamloops and drove to Vancouver and flew
Speaker:all across the world to Bali, and then came back. And then I spoke
Speaker:in Seattle and then came back and then I, excuse me,
Speaker:flew to Toronto. My body from all the different time zone switching,
Speaker:my nervous system was dysregulated. And I was able to tell, like, that I
Speaker:was dysregulated by, like, just, like, I had anxiety for no
Speaker:reason, and I felt really tired and drained, and my creativity was kinda
Speaker:stumped. And, like, I just felt exhausted. So I know my the signs of me
Speaker:when I'm getting when I'm dysregulated. So
Speaker:last weekend, I decided to stay home. And, like, I know
Speaker:going to the lake would be great, and usually driving to the lake and, you
Speaker:know, it's it's fine. But I knew that because on
Speaker:Sunday, I was driving to Vancouver for something very
Speaker:special that driving two and a half hours to the lake for two days and
Speaker:then driving back and then going to drive two and a half hours to Vancouver
Speaker:and then driving back Mhmm. Was gonna be too much for me. So I actually
Speaker:prioritized staying put and, like, fully just
Speaker:resting and having four days off work, off
Speaker:of things, and it was so good. And I just like, I napped and I
Speaker:slept and, like, I I feel like I'm myself again. Amazing. And
Speaker:then last Sunday, Shane and I drove to Vancouver
Speaker:Mhmm. On queue to pick up this little girl.
Speaker:Ah. Right on queue. So you can't see if you can't see and you're listening
Speaker:to this, she just my little cat just hopped on my lap. So we picked
Speaker:up a kitten. Her name is Teddy. She's almost
Speaker:three months old, and she's a British long hair. She's
Speaker:gold with, like, the bluest eyes.
Speaker:So we've had her for, at the time of recording, about a week. And she's
Speaker:just absolutely awesome. Like, she plays hard. She naps hard. She's super cuddly.
Speaker:She has slept with me every night. We went to the vet. She was super
Speaker:behaved, super healthy, checked out you know, check got her checked out.
Speaker:We're gonna actually this is really fun because I've never done this before, but we're
Speaker:gonna train her to be an adventure cat. So today, I'm gonna get a harness
Speaker:and begin harness training her and leash training her. So when we go to the
Speaker:lake, we we're gonna start bringing her with us. So in the trailer, she'll roam
Speaker:around. But when we're outside, she'll be on a leash because we have a whole
Speaker:outdoor patio set up. And if we're sitting by the fire, like, we'll have her
Speaker:with us. So I don't know how that's gonna go. It's either gonna go
Speaker:absolutely phenomenal or terrible. And if it goes terrible, then,
Speaker:well, I'll update you in a couple weeks on that. So the
Speaker:biggest change in my life right now has been the addition,
Speaker:of Teddy, and it's soul food. Like, she it's
Speaker:like Frey. Like, the spirit of Frey is, like, connected with her and been like,
Speaker:you're going to some really awesome humans, and, like, you're
Speaker:going to love it. And it's just it just feels
Speaker:right. Now what's also really funny is that I've been talking to a ragdoll breeder,
Speaker:and I have a deposit down. So, basically, there's also gonna be a ragdoll kitten
Speaker:that, like, shows up in her life. I just don't know when. And I wanna,
Speaker:like I don't want to have two two, like, two, like, new
Speaker:kittens. Mhmm. Because I you know, we're
Speaker:having we're having the experience of integrating Teddy
Speaker:with Duffy, who's our 14 year old, like, ginger cat. Mhmm. And, like,
Speaker:they're getting closer. Er. Like, they can coexist.
Speaker:Teddy wants to play, Duffy does not. But, anyways, they've they've shared food out of
Speaker:the same bowl. So they're they're making definitely progress, but,
Speaker:I think throwing another kitten into the mix will just, like, like, screw everything up.
Speaker:So Yeah. Like, at this time. So for now, I have this little
Speaker:fluff ball, and, it's just brought me a lot of joy and happiness and,
Speaker:like, healing. I love that. And you know what else? I love that we
Speaker:both have colonial cats. What
Speaker:what's a colonial cat? Well, British. I don't know. I feel like colonial is very
Speaker:But are we Canadian, which is, like, also kinda colonial? Well, we are
Speaker:colonial because we're, like, Eastern European, and we're not indigenous
Speaker:to the land. And we did not we are products of colonization.
Speaker:Yeah. But I don't know. I I just always associate, like, British with,
Speaker:like, colonial. And so, like our cats are like everyone's like,
Speaker:oh, I didn't know you can buy cats. I'm like, well, yeah. Because it's like
Speaker:a it's a it's a breed. It's a specific breed from a breeder.
Speaker:And I'm like, some people are into designer jewelry, designer shoes, fancy cars. I'm
Speaker:like, I'm into my designer cats because, like, I want a specific
Speaker:demeanor. And, like, Xena the warrior pussy or first cat. Oh
Speaker:my god. Don't eat my plant. Get out of here. Xena the warrior.
Speaker:Xena the warrior pussy. Specific demeanor as Yeah. As
Speaker:daddy's eating a plant. She was like she yeah. Well, she's a
Speaker:kitten. She eats eating everything.
Speaker:Zena the Warrior Posty was a barn cat free from a friend.
Speaker:You know, Shane's like,
Speaker:Ash was in our life before me. Like, it was in Shane's life before me
Speaker:and was a rescue. Duffy was a barn cat. And so Frey
Speaker:was, you know, from a breed because I wanted a specific cat. I want some
Speaker:I wanted something long haired, fluffy, super cuddly. I work from home. I don't
Speaker:have children. Yeah. And so I wanted and, like, also you can go and,
Speaker:like, attend intend on buying a, like, specific breed
Speaker:and wanting it to have a certain demeanor. It might not. So I'm very,
Speaker:very lucky. But also a lot of, like, how Shane and I behave impacts our
Speaker:cat's behavior. And a lot Shane and I are pretty mellow. Like, we just we
Speaker:we chill. We're we're not there's no yelling. It's very mellow
Speaker:energy. Like, we're lots of love. We play with the cats. So
Speaker:Yeah. But, anyways, I like my, designer cats. Yeah. So
Speaker:yeah. And Lenny's also colonial. Lenny's a a British shorthair.
Speaker:So he's the shorthair, funny cousin of
Speaker:Little bit of a lazy eye. Little bit of a lazy eye,
Speaker:but he's he's so cute. Yeah. I love that. Cute.
Speaker:They're they're funny too. They bring so much joy. And you know what else brings
Speaker:joy? What? Dark humor. Sure
Speaker:does. So so, there's a lot of different
Speaker:movies and shows and, like, resources, like magazines and books, like Get
Speaker:Griefy, those commercials that run for that. We have a partnership with Get Griefy magazine.
Speaker:They use a lot of dark humor in their social media and bringing a lot
Speaker:of, like, other dimensions to grief other than just extreme profound
Speaker:sadness. But there's a lot of great TV shows,
Speaker:and I would say, Alana and I
Speaker:watch a lot of TV. Like, we don't have children. We have the luxury of
Speaker:time. Like, I think since starting my ADHD meds, I've stopped stopped
Speaker:watching as much TV. I still watch a lot, but I don't watch as much.
Speaker:Like, after a few hours, I'm like, I can't do this anymore. And if it's
Speaker:nice out, I'd rather be outside. But Totally. But when there's a
Speaker:good show, I can't help but binge
Speaker:it As if we can binge it. If it's if it's all out at once.
Speaker:And, like, with streaming networks, they often do
Speaker:that. Some shows, like, shrinking, it's I think it's at,
Speaker:like, at weekly. I'm not really sure. But then there's shows like,
Speaker:the Canadian show that's I don't know when when it's gonna be available to The
Speaker:US, I hope soon, but, My Dead Mom or Yeah.
Speaker:Other shows like Dying for Sex that
Speaker:I I binged. Like, I was like, I need to download all the episodes and
Speaker:because I was traveling, and I was like, I was because on the airplane, I
Speaker:was like, I'm gonna do all this work and blah blah blah. No. No. No.
Speaker:I had to watch all of the episodes. Of course. So let's so,
Speaker:like, Alana and I can agree on a few shows. I'm I'll read you their
Speaker:descriptions. I pulled them up because I don't wanna, like, mess it up. But, like
Speaker:Yeah. Let's talk about we're gonna talk about Dying for Sex. It came out past
Speaker:April. We're gonna talk about My Dead Mom, which came out the end of last
Speaker:year. A little bit of Four Seasons and then
Speaker:shrinking. And, you know, there might be other things that come up in this conversation.
Speaker:And if you hear big crashes, it's because my kitten my designer kitten is having
Speaker:the zoomies and crashing around my office. So
Speaker:let's start with dying for sex because it was, like, the most recent, like Mhmm.
Speaker:My most recent, like, obsession. And so, basically, this girl is
Speaker:diagnosed with stage four, metastatic breast cancer, and she decides to leave
Speaker:her husband and explore the complexity of her sexual desires for the first time in
Speaker:her life. You know, her best friend is by her side. And it is
Speaker:so well done. So well done and,
Speaker:like, also very accurate. Well,
Speaker:the social worker maybe is a little bit boundary crossing. Yeah.
Speaker:Not maybe is, but from, like, the
Speaker:palliative, metastatic cancer approach,
Speaker:very accurate, which I love. I love accuracy in a TV
Speaker:show. Yeah. And I think what's really great so, like, it's Michelle Williams. Like, if
Speaker:you grew up like, if you're a vintage millennial like me and you watch Dawson
Speaker:Creek, is it from she's from Dawson's Creek. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker:Like, you know, it's it's very nostalgic. But the
Speaker:way the way they integrate the seriousness and the
Speaker:humor is just so brilliant because, Alana
Speaker:and I have been through a lot of stuff. And there was amongst the, like,
Speaker:absolute shattering heartbreak, there was a lot of
Speaker:a lot of pockets of absolutely ridiculous stuff
Speaker:that happened that is nothing but humorous. Yeah.
Speaker:Yeah. Especially with our dad's
Speaker:End of life. Allegation, end of life. Like, our mom's a little
Speaker:less so. Our mom's a lot of it came afterwards. But our dad's, like,
Speaker:during it, we would be like, oh my god. What is happening?
Speaker:Right. Yeah. And so in Dying for Sex, like, I
Speaker:don't think any of this is gonna, there might be spoilers for all the things
Speaker:we talk about. But, like, the show is called Dying for Sex. So,
Speaker:basically, I I mean, like, I don't know how they're gonna do a second season,
Speaker:but, like, towards the end, the different stages, like, the last burst of energy
Speaker:and you know? I thought it was really, like, somewhat
Speaker:accurate, like, very accurate. And it had me thinking about when dad was dying. Like,
Speaker:do you remember, like, I think dad's burst of energy was when we were watching
Speaker:the Super Bowl and the Doctor Dre and Snoop Dogg performance. Yeah.
Speaker:And he was he was also probably in a bit of a delirium during that
Speaker:as well Yeah. As he was, like, his past few week his last few weeks
Speaker:of life. But, yeah, he, like we had, like, the health care aide
Speaker:come in, and he was, like, bouncing up and
Speaker:down. He was having a great time. So but, anyways, I think, like,
Speaker:it's also, because because you said it's so accurate, I think this is a really
Speaker:great way to, like, if you're maybe having someone in your life who's, you
Speaker:know, diagnosed with cancer or terminal,
Speaker:this might be a really good show for you to watch that, like, takes you
Speaker:on a bit of a journey, you know, for with someone who's dying, and you
Speaker:can see that it's not all just absolute gloom.
Speaker:Yeah. And, also, you know, like, a
Speaker:lot of people hold their sense of humor even as they are
Speaker:dying, and I think that shows I mean, I don't know. I'm sure
Speaker:some of it was dramatized for the Oh, of course.
Speaker:For the show. But this is a spoiler, so
Speaker:skip over the next, like, minute right now. My
Speaker:favorite part is it's like a it's a small interaction
Speaker:between, the the character and the best
Speaker:friend. Mhmm. And the one who is dying is saying, make
Speaker:sure, like, when I die, I don't die with my mouth open. Yeah.
Speaker:And sure enough, like, she ends up dying with her mouth open. And so,
Speaker:like, Jenny Slate's character is, like, trying to, like, push her mouth
Speaker:up Yeah. Because she was like, no. She can't die that way. And she was
Speaker:like and then it falls open again, and then she has to do it again.
Speaker:And it was just like those little moments. Yeah. Yeah. So
Speaker:I would say 10 out of 10. Like, go watch it. 10 out of 10.
Speaker:10 out of 10. Go watch it. Telling all my colleagues who I work with
Speaker:in palliative care to watch it too. Oh my god. Why is
Speaker:my cat being so crazy right now? Is it because we're potting?
Speaker:Yeah. Teddy Teddy wants to talk about Teddy, do you
Speaker:wanna talk about death? No. You're like, I just started life. Yeah.
Speaker:What if we yeah. So, yeah, dying for sex,
Speaker:% recommend. Do you want let's talk about my dead mom because Love that
Speaker:one. I actually so I wrote an article about Wendy in the show for Get
Speaker:Greasy, which comes out in June. At this time, I don't
Speaker:think it's available outside of Canada, and I know they're working on it. Yeah. And
Speaker:I think and Wendy was on the podcast too. Yeah. And Wendy was on our
Speaker:podcast, but it is so well done. It's do
Speaker:you want would you I'll I'll read the description. Yeah. Read the description.
Speaker:Okay. So, Emmy is a woman who begins to reconsider her life choices
Speaker:three years after passing, after the passing of her mom, exploring the
Speaker:complicated nature of grief through the filter of mothers and
Speaker:daughters. And, again, this is a show that
Speaker:I heard about and I binged. If you're in Canada, it's available
Speaker:on Crave. It might be available on Prime.
Speaker:Might be No. Probably Prime if you bought the Crave channel is my guess.
Speaker:Okay. So, anyways, this specific show, I really enjoyed
Speaker:because, a, there's a lot of dark humor. It's about a Jewish
Speaker:daughter, which Alana and I are Jewish daughters. There's a lot of, like, elements
Speaker:of Judaism in there and, like, kinda like the Jewish guilt and, like, the, like,
Speaker:like, the the mannerisms of a Jewish mother.
Speaker:Mhmm. And I found it really relatable. Like, not
Speaker:even just the Jewish part, but just, like, losing my mom and, like, the hearing
Speaker:my mom's voices and stuff like that. Our our mom oh, there's Lenny. We
Speaker:got a cat buddy. So the thing is our mom, I would say, wasn't your
Speaker:typical Jewish mother. She doesn't fit
Speaker:the stereotype fully, but our mom had a lot
Speaker:of, like, neuroses for sure. Yeah. So why did you
Speaker:love my dead mom? I okay. So I just
Speaker:loved it because, like, basically, it's like
Speaker:the ghost of mom that visits Emmy
Speaker:and just the voice of the head of, like, what her mom would say to
Speaker:her in these moments because I often think about certain
Speaker:situations. Like, what would mom say? More so, it's about, like, when I hear news
Speaker:about people, I'm like, what would mom say about this? Oh, yeah. But hers was
Speaker:a little bit more of, like, about her specifically. And I
Speaker:just find it so accurate that, like, beyond the
Speaker:grave Yeah. Yeah. The mom is still having this
Speaker:huge influence on her life. Yeah.
Speaker:So that's a really funny show. And, Alana, you just, like,
Speaker:went went down like, you just nailed it. So
Speaker:and Wendy's amazing. Like, she's won awards for her shows. She's on her
Speaker:podcast. You can listen to it. You know? And she's also
Speaker:a super cool chick that, you know, is a very good storyteller.
Speaker:Another show that I think really uses dark humor well is
Speaker:shrinking. And, so shrinking is
Speaker:a grieving therapist starts to break the rules by telling his clients
Speaker:exactly what he thinks. Jimmy has lost his wife and wants to try a
Speaker:new approach to his loss, but it's unclear how he's gonna how this is gonna
Speaker:help others. Others. And and so this is,
Speaker:the way this show is, it's it's it, like, has all the emotions.
Speaker:Mhmm. And so it's Jason Seagal. Is it Seagal or
Speaker:Seagal? Seagal. I don't know. Seagal. Anyways,
Speaker:just like the cast of characters is all brilliant.
Speaker:And, like, every episode just like, I feel like there's
Speaker:always a range of emotions. Like, it's not just humor. But there's a lot of
Speaker:humorous moments where, like, I do the whole, like, laugh out loud at, like, the
Speaker:situation that happens. Because it's about all these relationships amongst, like,
Speaker:therapists, friends of the, you know, mom who passed away, the wife who passed away,
Speaker:the daughter and the dad. And I think it's just
Speaker:done so beautifully. Mhmm. And it I would say, like, I don't even know if
Speaker:it's, categorized as a dramedy, like a drama comedy, but
Speaker:there's a lot of like, there's a lot of comedic moments,
Speaker:that are shown in this. Totally. And it's just a reminder
Speaker:that, like, you know, like, even when these, like, profound losses happen,
Speaker:like, a lot of times, there's, like, these funny little moments
Speaker:in the minutiae. And I what I personally love it's not even the dark
Speaker:humor part of the show that I love. I'm a huge Jessica Williams fan.
Speaker:I used to listen to the two Dope Queens podcast that she had
Speaker:with, Phoebe Robinson. And so I
Speaker:just love her sense of humor, and you could see
Speaker:her bringing herself into the role. And I know she herself has actually gone
Speaker:through quite a grief. Yeah. I believe her her partner
Speaker:had died. I don't wanna I don't wanna, like, say what it was because I'm
Speaker:not a % sure it may have been an overdose.
Speaker:But I know I mean, I don't know Jessica Williams. Yeah. But
Speaker:I imagine she's tapped into her own experience. Yeah.
Speaker:I didn't know that she was part of two dope queens. Yeah.
Speaker:She's so funny in the show. Like, her character is amazing in the
Speaker:show. Mhmm. And then the last show I just wanna touch on. And I know
Speaker:we're kinda going through the laundry list, but we don't wanna go too deep because,
Speaker:well, we want you to let go watch the shows. Yeah. We don't wanna spoil
Speaker:them. So the next one, we're not gonna talk too too much about, like, because
Speaker:I it's new, and there might be
Speaker:spoilers in this part, but, four seasons. So,
Speaker:like, first of all, I'm gonna just read the description. And so
Speaker:it's the decade long friendship between three married couples as tested with
Speaker:one divorce is complicating the traditions of their, like, quarterly
Speaker:weekend getaways. And it's Steve Carell.
Speaker:It's Tina Fey, Coleman Domingo, Erica I
Speaker:don't even know how to say her last name, Henningsen, and a few other really
Speaker:brilliant characters, like this guy Marco Calavani. I've never even heard of
Speaker:him. Like, he plays Claude. I love Claude. So,
Speaker:basically, like, it's the way the show is laid out,
Speaker:you know, each episode is, like, one of the seasons,
Speaker:and, like, it's one of their trips. And it follows the journey, and, like, season
Speaker:one ends with a tragedy. Yeah. But even the
Speaker:tragedy, the way they lay it out has this layer of humor to it.
Speaker:Like, the the tragedy, Annette being announced itself wasn't,
Speaker:but what's happening around it is. And so this
Speaker:show, it's a dark comedy. But Yeah.
Speaker:Well and it also, like, it other parts of grief aside from,
Speaker:like, tragic tragedies. Mhmm.
Speaker:You know, there's some disenfranchised grief that happens quite early
Speaker:on in the show, and and the way they tackle that is
Speaker:very well done as well. And it's it's great. Yeah. I don't wanna say too
Speaker:much about it because you know? But, like, I also binged
Speaker:it. I binged watched it. Yeah. I I I've been trying to,
Speaker:like, separate eight episode shows until, like, two of four
Speaker:just for my own, like because I don't want things to end.
Speaker:Yeah. I do recognize I spoiled
Speaker:Dying for Sex, and I apologize for that. But, also, if you
Speaker:haven't watched it yet, then what are you doing? Also, like, the title.
Speaker:Yeah. Like, it's pretty obvious what happened. So But yeah. So the
Speaker:I think, like, those four shows, you know, Alana and I are working
Speaker:on this project where we're, like, really, like, diving back into our
Speaker:our journey with grief and losing our parents and the work that we're doing and,
Speaker:like, the sadness and the, like,
Speaker:the sadness, but also the layers of the dark humor.
Speaker:Yeah. And, you know, like, I think it's important to acknowledge the dark
Speaker:humor in the in the grief process because it
Speaker:creates conversation. I'll share a little anecdote that happened.
Speaker:So on Mother's Day this year, I was at a
Speaker:Pilates class, of course. And, at the end
Speaker:of the class, the the the teacher is like, thank you for so much for
Speaker:spending your Sunday with me. I thought you'd all be with your mothers. And so
Speaker:immediately, I go, well, my mom's dead. And everyone just kinda,
Speaker:like, looked like, oh. I'm like, no. No. No. Like, it's fine. I'm like, it's
Speaker:not fine, but, like, it's fine. And then but
Speaker:that brought up conversation. Like, someone beside me was saying, yeah. This is how it'll
Speaker:be for Father's Day for me. And then I was like, yeah. Me too.
Speaker:Not to try and steal her thunder, but, but then somewhat then the
Speaker:teacher started talking. And so it just became a conversation about,
Speaker:like, death and the loss of of parents. And, you
Speaker:know, people are still so awkward when it comes to talking
Speaker:about death and grief that, like, sometimes these, like, dark humor
Speaker:moments can break the ice. Right. And
Speaker:it's it's so great that you you and I both have this honesty. Like, heck,
Speaker:we have a whole book series called resilient AF. We have a whole clothing line
Speaker:with the branding. We have clothing that is legit dark humor.
Speaker:And the people who get it get it, and the people who don't don't in
Speaker:the sense of we have shirts that say dead parents society, and the tagline is
Speaker:the club that no one wants to join. Anyone who's lost a parent's like, I
Speaker:need that shirt. Anyone who hasn't is so offended by it. And it's like Yeah.
Speaker:Actually, that's gonna happen to you, and it's gonna be really, really
Speaker:terrible. Yeah. And if it doesn't happen to you, that means you're the one
Speaker:who's died. Which is also really, really terrible. Which is which is also
Speaker:really terrible. But, yeah, like, I think, like, I you know, you and I have
Speaker:talked about this. Like, you know, you've had a lot a lot more friends in
Speaker:your circle who have Yeah. Lost parents. But, like,
Speaker:it's unless you've gone through it, it's really like, you just can't grasp
Speaker:it. Like No. You can't grasp it. And even losing a mom is different than
Speaker:losing a dad. Like, our moms, like, we're attached to them. Our umbilical cords are,
Speaker:like, attached to them. And, like Yeah. I know they're literally, like, we literally come
Speaker:from them, and I feel like our parent our mom's dying was, like, this other
Speaker:umbilical cord being cut. Right? Yeah. And,
Speaker:but so we use this dark humor. And, like, obviously, like, sometimes I'm just
Speaker:too sad to use humor and that's okay. Like, when Frey right when Frey suddenly
Speaker:died, like, there was no there was no humor, but it's always kind of in
Speaker:hindsight that I can reflect. You know? Like, even in Yeah. Like,
Speaker:Frey's last hours, like, the only time he wasn't screaming in pain was when he
Speaker:was eating chew. So Shane's like, I'm just gonna give you chew after chew.
Speaker:And so before we put him down, we just gave him treat after treat, and
Speaker:we're like, he just basically ate till the very end. Like, he was looking little
Speaker:funny. But, like, yeah. Like, some it's not like there's gonna be humor in every
Speaker:moment and not every moment is humorous, but I'm sure there are things you can
Speaker:think about in hindsight. Totally. I have another quick anecdote, and
Speaker:it's about TV. So Survivor,
Speaker:recently switched not recently, after COVID switched their
Speaker:seasons to be twenty six days. And so I have a group chat of friends
Speaker:who, watch Survive every week.
Speaker:And they they used to do this thing called a loved one's visit where they
Speaker:would have people come out, and now they they do, like, a letter. And then
Speaker:they get it on, like, day 21 or twenty two of twenty six, which is,
Speaker:like, not actually that long. And so my friend
Speaker:who's lost her dad was like, ugh. Like, I hate this. Like, they don't, like,
Speaker:need it. Like, it's only been, like, twenty one days. And I was like, yeah.
Speaker:Like, you know, I don't like it either. Like, it's it
Speaker:doesn't feel like they've earned it. And then I go
Speaker:to my friend. I'm like, I think the reason we don't like it is because
Speaker:we've gone longer because our parents are dead.
Speaker:Yeah. Oh, and so, like, the other two people in the chat
Speaker:both have their their parents alive, thankfully, but they were able to,
Speaker:like, laugh at the fact that, like, we
Speaker:could laugh at that. Even though it's, like, not funny, but,
Speaker:like, it's like, of course, we're bitter about it because, like,
Speaker:we've gone years. And, like, this friend of mine, like, her
Speaker:her dad actually died, like, two days before mom died, and so, like, we've been
Speaker:in this roller coaster for years together. Yeah.
Speaker:So I think on that note, you know,
Speaker:we invite you to go check out these shows. If you're going through a really
Speaker:hard time, not just a death, but a grief or a challenge
Speaker:in life, you know, those little moments that make you chuckle,
Speaker:note them down. Those little moments of glimmers or, like, hilarity,
Speaker:like, it's okay to laugh. Like, you could have multiple feelings at once.
Speaker:Right? You can be extremely sad and then, like, a grief vortex
Speaker:and also find moments of joy. All the feelings can
Speaker:coexist, and there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with
Speaker:laughing at a time where it should be really sad. Yeah. And I think a
Speaker:lot of people I I come across this a lot with, like, my clients is,
Speaker:like, you know, people feel guilty if they're happy or few people feel guilty if
Speaker:they're, like, enjoying themselves. And, you know, you're allowed to enjoy
Speaker:yourself and you're allowed to be happy, and that doesn't take away from the
Speaker:grief Yeah. And sadness you're experiencing. Exactly.
Speaker:So, any final words, sister?
Speaker:You know, I do not have any final words.
Speaker:Amazing. Amazing. So, yeah, we wanna invite you to
Speaker:find those those moments in the dark times that bring you a little
Speaker:smile or a little giggle and, you know, maybe reflect on, you know, hard times
Speaker:that you've gone through and see if they have those any moments. And if you
Speaker:can't find one, that's also okay because there's not always humor in everything.
Speaker:Yeah. But you, you know, I we also invite you to
Speaker:check out those shows. If you're watching this are you
Speaker:listening to this on YouTube or even actually on Spotify, we can leave
Speaker:comments. Let us know what other shows or movies that have dark humor
Speaker:Mhmm. About grief and loss, resonated with you
Speaker:because we'd love that. Maybe we even do a part two where we talk about
Speaker:movies and and books and all those things. Yeah. And thank you to
Speaker:everyone who tuned in to another episode of Resilient AF. This was such a
Speaker:hoot. Good hoot. Hoot hoot. Hoot hoot. You know,
Speaker:remember, life's full of ups and downs, good and bad, happy,
Speaker:sad, laughs and cries. That's just part of being human.
Speaker:It's the human experience, and you don't have to go through it alone.
Speaker:It's completely okay to not be okay. We are here to hold your
Speaker:hand and be that lighthouse in the storm, and just remember, you are
Speaker:resilient AF. Thanks.